in algeria when they took over the hostages. but in 2009 they tried to blow up an aircraft over the city of detroit when they were landing on christmas day, which was a very real, very serious event and but for a quarter of an inch, that device would have gone off, killing hundreds on the airplane and who knows how many hundreds on the ground. it was a very densely populated. so they are still under attack. we should be able to go after and get after those folks overseas so they don't get here. jenna: your point is well-taken. the beginning and end to the war on terror is challenging to say the least. i want to just quickly get your thoughts on this because we've talked a great deal in the past about your feelings about this administration leaking information to the press on highly classified, highly classified situations and serious operations like the bin laden raid. how concerned are you that a man you've often criticized being at the center of some of these leaks, john brennan, may be the nation's top spy? >> for the record, i never said that john brennan was the center of the leaks.